Episode 127

The Way Out Is In with Jo Confino

Published on: 29th July, 2024

How can we stop striving to be at the top and instead discover that the way out is in? In this episode of the Wise Effort Show, Jo Confino joins Diana Hill in Plum Village, France, to discuss how true fulfillment doesn't come from external achievements but from inside ourselves. We can find genuine happiness and peace by embracing mindfulness and redefining our notions of success.

Listen and Learn

  • How to make a big impact with a small effort
  • How to lead from the front, center, and back
  • Ways to look for insights inside yourself
  • To Avoid The Trap of Endless Striving:

Listen to Jo as he shares his thoughts on moving away from the pursuit of being at the top and instead finding that the true path lies within.

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    Dr. Diana Hill, PhD is a clinical psychologist, executive consultant, and international trainer who helps leaders and teams navigate complexity without precedent. Her Wise Effort Method addresses a problem most high performers recognize immediately: the drive that got them here is now working against them. A leading voice in the evolution of Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, she co-leads ACT BootCamp with ACT founder Dr. Steven Hayes, trains the trainers, and serves as an instructor for the University of California's Climate Resilience Initiative. She has led executive retreats and intensives for leadership teams including Deckers Brands, Lightfully Behavioral Health, and YPO. Diana is the author of Wise Effort: How to Focus Your Genius Energy on What Matters Most and three other books, hosts the Wise Effort podcast, and has been featured on NPR, CNN, and The Wall Street Journal. With over 20 years of yoga and meditation practice, she teaches from embodied experience rather than theory alone — her sessions are experiential and transformational.