Episode 174

Getting Back on The Path with Rosemerry Wahtola Trommer and Christie Aschwanden

Published on: 27th October, 2025

Are you struggling to find inspiration and express your creative self? In this special episode of The Wise Effort Show, Dr. Diana Hill shares a vulnerable and insightful conversation from the bonus episode of the Emerging Form podcast. Delving into the nuances of creativity and recovery, Diana discusses her journey with poetry, metaphor, and wise effort. She reveals how personal imperfection and vulnerability can become powerful tools for growth and connection. Learn how to harness your creative energy and face challenges with courage and resilience.

In This Episode, We Explore:

  • The role of vulnerability in creativity and recovery
  • The effectiveness of using metaphors in psychological interventions
  • Insights on maintaining wise effort amidst personal struggles
  • Practical tips for integrating creativity into your healing journey

Suggested Next Episode:

Episode 157: The Medicine Of Surrender, Poetry, And Metaphor With Rosemerry Wahtola Trommer

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    Dr. Diana Hill, PhD is a clinical psychologist, executive consultant, and international trainer who helps leaders and teams navigate complexity without precedent. Her Wise Effort Method addresses a problem most high performers recognize immediately: the drive that got them here is now working against them. A leading voice in the evolution of Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, she co-leads ACT BootCamp with ACT founder Dr. Steven Hayes, trains the trainers, and serves as an instructor for the University of California's Climate Resilience Initiative. She has led executive retreats and intensives for leadership teams including Deckers Brands, Lightfully Behavioral Health, and YPO. Diana is the author of Wise Effort: How to Focus Your Genius Energy on What Matters Most and three other books, hosts the Wise Effort podcast, and has been featured on NPR, CNN, and The Wall Street Journal. With over 20 years of yoga and meditation practice, she teaches from embodied experience rather than theory alone — her sessions are experiential and transformational.